David “Newman” Phillips’ Q3 Earnings Preview: SIRI

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David "Newman" Phillips

David "Newman" Phillips

Sirius XM (SIRI) is set to report their Q3 numbers on Thursday November 5th. Of course, Satwaves will once again be providing live blogging coverage of the event using the CoverItLive Platform. I felt it would be prudent to let our readers know exactly what I am expecting. Brandon has already given his numbers, so now it is my turn…

SUBSCRIBERS
As far as subscribers go, I think Q2 was the last quarter for subscriber losses. Regardless of what was portrayed by the main stream media, the losses were never as bad as The Motley Fool (TMF) and TheStreet.com (TSCM) made them out to be. You see, for the past 2 quarters, nearly all of the losses came from the number of TRIAL subscriptions, as opposed to SELF PAY subscriptions. Self pay remained relatively flat, while the company reported a significant decrease in the number of trial subs – people that may not have even known about satellite radio or even known that it was installed in their new car. Of course, the Fool and the Street will never give you those details. I wonder if the media will differentiate this quarter? Why? Because I think self pay subs are going to remain flat, but overall subs will be up significantly.

The trick to the trial subscriptions is this: Many of the OEM manufacturers such as Ford (F) and Chrysler pay for the radios up front. As soon as that radio is paid for, it is counted for a subscriber. The problem with this is that the radio may be sitting on a shelf at an automotive plant,  sitting in a new car on a parking lot somewhere (hence the term Parking Lot sub), or activated as a trial subscription. GM (MTLQQ), Chrysler, and Ford all had factory shut downs in Q2, and then inventory shortages at the beginning of Q3. In my opinion, the inventory at the end of Q2 was minimal. Today, most lots are full. This means that you are going to see a significant increase in parking lot subs and trial subs thanks to Cash for Clunkers. We also must not underestimate the power of the Certified Pre-Owned programs that Sirius XM has been signing on all year. My projection on overall subscriber number: 18,510,000, an increase of approximately 95k subscribers.

Key Metrics
With huge ramp ups and inventory building done in Q3, Sirius XM will have a significant increase in costs.  Granted, as soon as the car is sold, Sirius XM receives payment for the full trial period, but that amount is amortized over the life of the trial period. Also, one must take into account the costs associated with developing and bringing new retail options (such as the XM SkyDock) to the market and advertising like they did with the Apple (AAPL) iPhone application. Costs will be up significantly, while revenue remains relatively flat.

Churn – Mel already tipped his hand at the Liberty Media (LMDIA) Conference call regarding this. He said that it inched up slightly. Last quarter, the self-pay churn was reported at 2.0%. This quarter will come in at 2.1%.

EBITDA - Here is the disappointing number for many. Q1 EBITDA was reported as 108.8 million. Q2 EBITDA was 132 million for a total of $240 million. Their projected EBITDA for the year is $400 million, which means they only need to make $160 million for the year to meet their current guidance. I foresee Q3 EBITDA being nothing, plus or minus about 25 million (Sorry, no EBITDA song this quarter). I do not expect to see management upgrade their forecast of “over 400 million” at this conference call, but I do foresee them making (and beating) their own guidance for year end with a strong Q4.

SAC - Will increase significantly due to advertising and increase costs with radios. It will approach the $64 area. (Q2 SAC was $57)

ARPU - Will decrease significantly because all of the parking lot subs that are added are not producing income and trials which produce it slowly. It will approach the $10.55 area. (Q2 ARPU was $10.66)

One Time Charges
Back in August, Sirius XM was able to successfully refinance the Liberty Media (LINTA) financing of 250 million dollars, and reduce their interest rate from 15% to 9.75%, and extend the maturity out quite a bit. Sirius XM recorded a discount amount associated with the loan of $123 million. This discount represents interests and costs associated with the loans that was paid for up front. The funny thing about accounting is that the discount means that they were not carrying the full loan amount on the books as debt. When Sirius XM paid off the debt, it left an imbalance that has to be written off as a one time expense related to the retirement of debt. This $123 million will be discounted slightly, but the company will still have to write off approximately $100 million in one time expenses, or approximately 2.5 cents per share. While many will harp on this, it was done with the sole intent of improving the cash flow and decrease the quarterly interest payments which is a win/win for Sirius XM and its shareholders. Take note that this is merely an accounting procedure and absolutely does not affect the cash on hand. It should be looked at as a good thing.

Earnings Per Share
There are so many unknowns this quarter that it makes any sort of estimates difficult. The toughest of all is an earnings estimate. Traditionally, Q3 has come in somewhere between Q1 and Q2 numbers. Q1 earnings per share was (0.07) and Q2 earnings per share was (0.01) excluding one-time charges of which they had (0.03) in one time charges. I actually see significant improvement in EPS, but not quite to the profitable mark just yet. I see earnings come in at exactly the same as last quarter of (0.01), and a onetime charge of (0.03), bringing the total EPS to (0.04).

Think I’m right? Think I’m wrong? Please let me know why over in the Satwaves Forums!

David “Newman” Phillips
Disclosure: LONG SIRI, no position in any other equity mentioned.
Contact the author at newman@satwaves.com

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24 Responses to “David “Newman” Phillips’ Q3 Earnings Preview: SIRI”

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  • trilaemasu says:

    Very nice article, full of explanation. Wonderful example of journalism.

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  • Tony says:

    Good article, but why would there be little to no ebita ? I mean does this take into account 2$ price increase for fam plans, new iphone app and half a quarter of royalty fee increase ? I would think ebita is closer to 100million.

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  • dean says:

    Big upside surprise coming so fasten seat belts. Apple and sirius==============$$$$$$$$$$$$

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  • WTHarvey says:

    There is something quietly disconcerting about simply providing better content. Machiavelli said, ‘all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed.’ By reducing interest payments and stepping up our radio production, Sirius is becoming armed. May be costly in the near term but bolsters upcoming quarters’ profits. Thanks, Newman!

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  • jbsliverer says:

    Nice take there Newman, good article. It will be interesting to see how close the crystal ball will be.

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  • satfan says:

    Was at the Phillies game last night, SIRIXM was giving away XM MP3 portable radios, also giving away 3mon free flyers and had several stands set up.

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    No EBITDA………LOL! That had to be a joke. Unbelievable. Out of left field. Good Lord Newman!

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  • Newman says:

    Why is that out of left field? Increased costs with flat revenue equals no EBITDA for the quarter. As I said in the article, they only need 160 million to meet their estimates, and I think they actually blow that out of the water in Q4…

    What exactly do YOU predict their EBITDA will be for the quarter Muscle? Feel free to post your predictions in the forums…

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    What in the world??? Mel runs the company on cash flow? No EBITDA??? You cannot be serious. You just can’t be. Please follow radio. Please……….

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    Where is Demian? Demian are you out there? Did you read this NO EBITDA article? What in the world???? I am in shock!

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  • Newman says:

    All of this pleading and ridicule, and still you have yet to provide an EBITDA projection for the quarter…

    Once again, I invite you to share your numbers. We are a community that tries to help each other. Feel free to post your prediction.

    I guess we will know more on Thursday, bright and early. Don’t forget we will be live blogging the earnings call!

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    In your mind Newman everything I say is ridicule. You just can’t seem to take any kind of honest negative reaction to your posts at all.

    If Mel doesn’t do over 100 mil in EBITDA I would be in as much shock as I was reading your article of no EBITDA!! Where in the world is Demian on this issue???

    Demian WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!

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  • just sirius says:

    Mjuscle

    Newman has put quite abit of time and effort into this article! if you don’t agree…write you own…giving reasons for the 100+M in EBIDTA. he is entitled to his opinion…your entitled to your opinion…and I am entitled to mine! Now FO! Since you aren’t being constructive…FO and go away!

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  • Colony says:

    You make a good prediction Newman…though I believe you are way underestimating where revenue will come in.

    If revenue remains flat, I will eat my shorts!

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  • brad says:

    Good detailed preview. Thanks.

    Just to be clear: You are predicting a loss of .04 per share and Brandon (last I read in the forum) is predicting a gain of .01 per share.

    Love a good preview showdown.

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  • LIBOR/TED SPREAD says:

    I will also be SHOCKED if revenue is flat!! $2 $4 $0.97 $2 the price hikes should help topline growth. I do like the article, well thought out Newman!

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  • asm610 says:

    Newman…tough article to write..you can never win. Good work though in trying. I also have to disagree on your EBITDA figure. If you look at the Q2 filing..there was an increase of over 100% in cash and cash equivalents YOY. I cannot imagine that this is all gone with this Q and all its promise. Also, I listened to Mel and Greg Maffei at the Liberty meeting a couple of weeks ago. Mel said FOCUS was on FCF and increasing shareholder value. He also said he had asked Liberty to postpone that meeting till after this Q3 CC…which tells me he had more to reveal that he could not. Therefore…I think we see not only increased EBITDA…but upping of EBITDA guidance as well for the year. This is only my personal opinion…its almost impossible to get it right…but the answer will be coming in a couple of days.

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  • shark says:

    I think tony and muscle have a point.
    What about that $2 royalty fee add-on? that’s additional revenue.
    and, you and one other poster here are too hard on muscle…he is just making a comment on a public message board…he has no obligation to do his own estimates.

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  • Newman says:

    Shark: When someone tells you that your prediction was a “joke” and “out of left field” and then backs it with absolutely nothing, I don’t think that I am being too hard on anyone.

    I have always said that I don’t care if someone calls me an idiot, as long as they provide facts as to why I am an idiot and why I am wrong. Muscle just calls me an idiot and then gets defensive when I ask him why, blowing me off because “In your mind Newman everything I say is ridicule”. When an argument is not backed up with facts or alternative opinions… I call that ridicule.

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    2 Words Newman – Mel Karmazin

    You have no clue who you are invested in and that is very obvious from your posts. You ask me for analyst reports on media. You ask me for analysis on EBITDA. You ask me about EV and how it ties to cash flow multiples. You ask me to back up everything I say.

    AND I DON’T WRITE FOR THIS MEDIA WEBSITE, YOU DO!

    Do your homework on Mel and stop putting posters down who have done their homework and disagree with you. It’s your website.

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  • Stratus says:

    Great Article Newman

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  • MUSCLE13 says:

    Fact – $106 million in EBITDA reported. End of Discussion. Maybe next time you won’t insult posters who do their homework and disagree with you.

    No EBITDA was a shot in the dark obviously.

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  • brad says:

    Save the EBITDA estimate, you were pretty right on. Good preview in retrospect. Plus you won the showdown with Brandon.

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  • brad says:

    What a weak freakin’ move in the share price today. We were above this last week with no news out. Maybe everyone is maxed out on shares–3.5 billion is a lot to divy up.

    Hope some analyst reports move it higher soon.

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